{"id":8636,"date":"2023-01-20T14:18:03","date_gmt":"2023-01-20T11:18:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/?p=8636"},"modified":"2023-01-20T14:21:25","modified_gmt":"2023-01-20T11:21:25","slug":"podcast-yasaksiz-meydan-41-anayasa-mahkemesi-karari-ve-1-mayista-taksim-meydani","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/2023\/01\/20\/podcast-yasaksiz-meydan-41-anayasa-mahkemesi-karari-ve-1-mayista-taksim-meydani\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast: Yasaks\u0131z Meydan 41-Anayasa Mahkemesi karar\u0131 ve 1 May\u0131s&#8217;ta Taksim Meydan\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: Yasaks\u0131z Meydan \/ AYM karar\u0131 ve 1 May\u0131s&amp;apos;ta Taksim Meydan\u0131\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/5KeqHlCXqbSIhMwHgl7i3n?si=XB_cwNXMSpiK8ChY2f5BCQ&#038;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<article class=\"article-content\">\n<div class=\"text-content\">\n<div class=\"article-detail news-detail\">\n<div class=\"text-content\">\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><span>E\u015fit Haklar \u0130\u00e7in \u0130zleme Derne\u011fi ve K\u0131sa Dalga i\u015fbirli\u011finde haz\u0131rlanan Yasaks\u0131z Meydan\u2019da bu hafta D\u0130SK Hukuk Dairesi M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc Avukat Necdet Okcan , Anayasa Mahkemesi\u2019nin D\u0130SK\u2019in Taksim Meydan\u0131\u2019nda 1 May\u0131s 2016 kutlamas\u0131na y\u00f6nelik karar\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131yor.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">AYM, toplant\u0131 ve g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015f\u00fc d\u00fczenleme hakk\u0131na getirilen s\u0131n\u0131rlaman\u0131n, an\u0131lan hakk\u0131 anlams\u0131z k\u0131lacak nitelikte olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, zorunlu bir toplumsal ihtiyac\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve orant\u0131l\u0131 oldu\u011funu belirtti. Y\u00fcksek Mahkeme, toplant\u0131 ve g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015f\u00fc d\u00fczenleme hakk\u0131n\u0131n ihlal edilmedi\u011fine h\u00fckmetti.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">D\u0130SK Hukuk Dairesi M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc Avukat Necdet Okcan, Anayasa Mahkemesi\u2019nin D\u0130SK\u2019in Taksim Meydan\u0131\u2019nda 1 May\u0131s 2016 kutlamas\u0131na y\u00f6nelik karar\u0131n\u0131 yorumlad\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Taksim Meydan\u0131&#8217;n\u0131n bir anlam\u0131 var<\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Avukat Okcan, AYM&#8217;nin bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131l toplant\u0131 ve g\u00f6steri hakk\u0131n\u0131n kullan\u0131m\u0131nda mekan\u0131n \u00f6nemini \u015f\u00f6yle anlat\u0131yor: \u201cA\u0130HM, D\u0130SK ve KESK T\u00fcrkiye davas\u0131 karar\u0131nda \u00e7ok ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bir \u015fekilde alanla toplant\u0131 g\u00f6steri hakk\u0131n\u0131n kullan\u0131m\u0131 aras\u0131ndaki ba\u011flant\u0131y\u0131 kurdu. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc baz\u0131 olaylar vard\u0131r, toplumun zihninde belleklerinde yer eder. \u0130\u015fte nedir bu?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Taksim 1 May\u0131s alan\u0131 niye \u00f6nemlidir i\u015f\u00e7iler i\u00e7in, sendikalar i\u00e7in? 1977 y\u0131l\u0131nda orada T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin o tarihe kadar ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015f en b\u00fcy\u00fck kitlesel katliam\u0131 oldu, 37 tane i\u015f\u00e7i ya\u015fam\u0131n\u0131 kaybetti. Onun i\u00e7in bir anlam\u0131 var.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda toplant\u0131 g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015fleri bulunduklar\u0131 kentin en b\u00fcy\u00fck meydanlar\u0131nda en g\u00f6rkemli meydanlar\u0131nda yap\u0131l\u0131r. B\u00fct\u00fcn d\u00fcnyada bu b\u00f6yledir. T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 nereden kaynaklan\u0131yor? Anayasa\u2019n\u0131n 34. maddesinde uzun d\u00f6nemler bir idareye toplant\u0131 g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015f\u00fc g\u00fczergah\u0131n\u0131 belirlemeyi tan\u0131yan bir d\u00fczenleme vard\u0131. Buna paralel olarak 2911 say\u0131l\u0131 kanun valiliklere, m\u00fclki amirliklere bu konuda geni\u015f yetki tan\u0131yordu. Onlar da her y\u0131l hala yap\u0131yorlar bu d\u00fczenlemeyi. Anayasa&#8217;dan bu kald\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131 daha sonra Avrupa Birli\u011fi\u2019ne uyum s\u00fcrecinde.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Buna ra\u011fmen 12 Eyl\u00fcl uygulamas\u0131, 12 Eyl\u00fcl sonras\u0131 uygulama&#8230; Valilik diyor ki \u201c\u015eu alanda yapabilirsin, ba\u015fka alanda yapamazs\u0131n\u201d. T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;deki toplant\u0131 g\u00f6steri hakk\u0131ndaki en b\u00fcy\u00fck engel, valili\u011fin belirledi\u011fi alanlar d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda toplant\u0131 g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015f\u00fc yapma hakk\u0131 isteyen insanlara polisin sald\u0131rmas\u0131, davalar a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131, insanlar\u0131n g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nmas\u0131 \u015feklinde ger\u00e7ekle\u015fiyor.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">&#8220;Yasak\u00e7\u0131 bir tutum al\u0131yor&#8221;<\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Avukat Okcan, AYM\u2019nin ihlal olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na ili\u015fkin karar\u0131n\u0131 uluslararas\u0131 standartlar a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan da \u015f\u00f6yle de\u011ferlendiriyor:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u201cBiliyorsunuz A\u0130HM\u2019e en fazla ihlal ba\u015fvurusu yap\u0131lan \u00fclkelerden bir tanesi de T\u00fcrkiye, 2. s\u0131rada diye hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum. Mahkeme o kadar b\u00fcy\u00fck bir i\u015f y\u00fck\u00fc ile kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131ya gelmi\u015f ki daha sonra. AYM\u2019ye bireysel ba\u015fvuru hakk\u0131n\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de kabul edilmesinden sonra zaman zaman A\u0130HM ile AYM aras\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler oldu. O g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerin etkisiyle tek tek m\u00fcnferit birtak\u0131m olaylarda A\u0130HM standartlara yak\u0131n kararlar\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Bunun da T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den A\u0130HM\u2019e giden ba\u015fvuru say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 azaltma ile ilgili oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Ama b\u00f6yle b\u00fcy\u00fck kolektif haklara, yani toplu 1 May\u0131s ba\u015fvurusu gibi, D\u0130SK\u2019in yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ba\u015fvuru gibi birtak\u0131m olaylarda tekrar AYM ba\u015fka bir h\u00fcviyete d\u00f6n\u00fcyor; yasak\u00e7\u0131 bir tutum al\u0131yor orada.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Oysa daha \u00f6nceki ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 kararlarla \u015fimdi D\u0130SK\u2019in hakk\u0131nda verdi\u011fi karar\u0131 yan yana koyun, b\u00f6yle olmamas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Yani bug\u00fcne kadarki y\u00f6nelimi, Taksim karar\u0131n\u0131 ihlal vermesi laz\u0131m. Dedi\u011fim gibi ayn\u0131 zamanda \u015f\u00f6yle bir \u015fey olmasa, ilk defa b\u00f6yle bir ba\u015fvuru olsa Taksim ile ilgili&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Devlete d\u00fc\u015fen pozitif y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fcl\u00fck<\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">A\u0130HM\u2019in D\u0130SK &#8211; KESK T\u00fcrkiye davas\u0131 karar\u0131 var. Orada ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 inceliyor. Yani \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc nas\u0131l inceliyor, \u201cs\u00fcrpriz de\u011fildir\u201d diyor A\u0130HM, idari makamlar\u0131 haberdar etmi\u015ftir bu toplant\u0131dan. Burada devlete d\u00fc\u015fen g\u00f6rev, toplant\u0131 g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015f\u00fc ile ilgili gerekli g\u00fcvenlik \u00f6nlemlerini al\u0131p hakk\u0131n \u00f6z\u00fcne uygun bir \u015fekilde bunun kullan\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flamakt\u0131r. Devlete d\u00fc\u015fen pozitif y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fcl\u00fck budur diyor. \u015eimdi orada hep bize gelen \u015fu var, mesela 2007 karar\u0131nda da 2008 karar\u0131nda da var bu. Devlet diyor ki birtak\u0131m istihbarat al\u0131nm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Orada b\u00fcy\u00fck olaylar\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kabilece\u011fi provokatif geli\u015fmelerin olabilece\u011fine dair&#8230; O zaman payla\u015fman\u0131z gerekir ba\u015fvurucuyla diyor. Yani siz ne t\u00fcr provokatif \u00f6nlemler vard\u0131r, bunun nas\u0131l \u00f6nlenemeyece\u011fini oturup payla\u015fman\u0131z gerekir.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><em><strong>E\u015fit Haklar \u0130\u00e7in \u0130zleme Derne\u011fi ve K\u0131sa Dalga ortakl\u0131\u011f\u0131nda Yasaks\u0131z Meydan, bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131l toplant\u0131 ve g\u00f6steri hakk\u0131 engellenen ve seslerini kamuoyuna duyurmak isteyenlerin platformu olmaya devam ediyor. E\u011fer siz de toplant\u0131 ve g\u00f6steri hakk\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n ihlal edildi\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsan\u0131z ya da bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131l toplant\u0131 ve g\u00f6steri hakk\u0131na dair s\u00f6ylemek istedikleriniz varsa, E\u015fit Haklar \u0130zleme Derne\u011fi ve Yasaks\u0131z Meydan ekibine esithaklar@gmail.com adresinden ve sosyal medya hesaplar\u0131m\u0131zdan ula\u015fabilirsiniz.<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\"><strong>ZD: Neden 1 May\u0131s kutlamalar\u0131nda Taksim Meydan\u0131 \u00f6nemli, belki bunu biraz vurgulamak iyi olur Necdet Bey?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\">NO: \u015e\u00f6yle bak\u0131yor g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. Yakla\u015f\u0131k olarak 1993 y\u0131l\u0131ndan D\u0130SK\u2019in tekrar faaliyete ge\u00e7ti\u011fi d\u00f6nemden itibaren hukuk dairesinde g\u00f6rev yap\u0131yorum. Yakla\u015f\u0131k 30 y\u0131ll\u0131k s\u00fcre i\u00e7erisinde b\u00fct\u00fcn D\u0130SK\u2019in d\u00fczenledi\u011fi 1 May\u0131s a\u00e7\u0131k hava alan organizasyonlarda g\u00f6rev ald\u0131m. Bunlar\u0131n idare ba\u015fvurular\u0131 yapt\u0131k daha sonra alanlarda \u015eimdi burada g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz \u015fu: 30 y\u0131l i\u00e7erisinde en kitlesel mitinglerin Taksim\u2019de yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Taksim\u2019in \u00f6nemi var, herkes Taksim\u2019e ko\u015ftura ko\u015ftura geliyor. Yani herkesin belle\u011finde bir Taksim alg\u0131s\u0131 var. 1 May\u0131s Taksim ile \u00f6zde\u015fle\u015fmi\u015f, Taksim 1 May\u0131s alan\u0131 aras\u0131nda bir \u00f6zde\u015flik kurulmu\u015f. \u015e\u00f6yle bak\u0131yoruz olaya, mesela 2007\u2019de 1000\u2019i a\u015fk\u0131n g\u00f6zalt\u0131 var. O g\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de \u0130stanbul&#8217;da Gebze\u2019den Silivri\u2019ye kadar s\u0131k\u0131y\u00f6netim ilan edilmi\u015f. Vapurlar \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131yor, metrolar \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131yor, otob\u00fcsler \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131yor, servis ara\u00e7lar\u0131 durduruluyor falan. Her yerde \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma var, engelleme var. Buna ra\u011fmen biz \u015funu g\u00f6rd\u00fck i\u015fte: Engelleyemediler. En son y\u00f6neticilerin s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131 say\u0131da insanla an\u0131ta veya kazanc\u0131 yoku\u015funa karanfil b\u0131rakmas\u0131na izin \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Biz bakt\u0131k ki orada 5000 ki\u015fiden fazla insan toplanm\u0131\u015f ve ya\u015f ortalamas\u0131 yani 40\u2019\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcnde. 1 May\u0131s 1977 hat\u0131rlayan bir s\u00fcr\u00fc insan tak\u0131m elbiseleri giymi\u015f, ellerine \u00e7i\u00e7eklerle Taksim\u2019e ko\u015fmu\u015flar gelmi\u015fler. Biz daha sonra da bunu g\u00f6rd\u00fck. Mesela \u015f\u00f6yle an\u0131lar var: Alanda ilk 2010 yani Taksim\u2019in a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 12 Eyl\u00fcl sonras\u0131nda ilk mitingin yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 tarihte D\u0130SK, KESK, T\u00fcrk-\u0130\u015f, Hak-\u0130\u015f de d\u00fczenleme komitesi i\u00e7indeydi. Herkes kat\u0131lacak herkesi alanda bir yer ay\u0131rd\u0131 kortejler i\u00e7in i\u015fte D\u0130SK \u015furadan gelsin KESK buradan gelsin T\u00fcrk-\u0130\u015f \u015furadan gelsin diye. Alana geldi\u011fimizde y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015f ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131nda alana geldi\u011fimizde alan dolmu\u015ftu. Vatanda\u015flar yani organize bir \u015fekilde gelen kortejlerin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda halk gelmi\u015f ve alan\u0131 doldurmu\u015f. Yani kortejleri sokacak yer bulamad\u0131k. \u015eimdi demek ki burada insanlar\u0131n haf\u0131zas\u0131nda Taksim\u2019in bir \u00f6nemi var. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla bu karar\u0131n, tabii o kitlesellik bence\u2026 Niye yasakland\u0131 2012\u2019den sonra? Bu kitlesellik \u00fcrk\u00fctt\u00fc iktidar\u0131. Yani ger\u00e7ekten alan\u0131n iki \u00fc\u00e7 defa bo\u015fald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, insanlar\u0131n alana giremediklerini g\u00f6rd\u00fck. Bizim yani \u201880 sonras\u0131nda en kitlesel 1 May\u0131s. Hatta arkada\u015flar\u0131n baz\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 var, d\u00fcnya \u00e7ap\u0131nda ki K\u00fcba biliyorsun her zaman \u00e7ok kitlesel oluyor, 1-2 milyon insan toplan\u0131yor. K\u00fcba\u2019dan sonra 2010, 2011, 2012 y\u0131llar\u0131nda yap\u0131lan d\u00fcnya \u00e7ap\u0131ndaki en kitlesel 1 May\u0131s g\u00f6sterileri Taksim\u2019de ger\u00e7ekle\u015fti. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla iktidarlar bundan \u00fcrk\u00fcyorlar hi\u00e7bir gerek\u00e7e yok, hi\u00e7bir olay \u00e7\u0131kmam\u0131\u015fken. Hi\u00e7bir ba\u015fka olumsuz bir tarihsel olarak bir \u015fey yokken iktidar 2013 y\u0131l\u0131nda yasaklad\u0131. Dikkat edin Gezi\u2019nin hemen \u00f6ncesidir bir ay \u00f6ncesidir Gezi\u2019nin ben hep onu s\u00f6ylerim. Gezi\u2019ye giden yolda taksimin yasaklanmas\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de ba\u015fka bir d\u00f6n\u00fcm noktas\u0131. Taksim yasaklanmas\u0131 ile ba\u015flayan bir \u015fiddet sarmal\u0131, topluma kar\u015f\u0131 y\u00f6nelen bir \u015fiddet sarmal\u0131 ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. 2013\u2019te kutlamak ve alana \u00e7\u0131kmak isteyen D\u0130SK, KESK, TTB, TMMOB ve birtak\u0131m sivil toplum kurulu\u015flar\u0131, sol siyasi partiler, dernekler, vak\u0131flara, sanat\u00e7\u0131lara sald\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 polis, ciddi g\u00f6zalt\u0131lar olmu\u015ftu. D\u0130SK binas\u0131 abluka alt\u0131na al\u0131nm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r gazlarla, yaral\u0131lar vard\u0131 2013\u2019te. Arkas\u0131ndan hemen yakla\u015f\u0131k olarak bir ay sonra 31 May\u0131s 1 Haziran Gezi ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Gezi sarmal\u0131 ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Gezi\u2019de sald\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r kente, yani asl\u0131nda Taksim Meydan\u0131\u2019na, Taksim\u2019e, Gezi Park\u0131\u2019na sahip \u00e7\u0131kan, kent k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcne sahip \u00e7\u0131kan insanlara sald\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Burada dedi\u011fim gibi asl\u0131nda bizce malum sebepler ama devletin b\u00f6yle bir haf\u0131zas\u0131nda bir Taksim korkusu var. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc ilk 1 May\u0131s\u2019\u0131n geni\u015f olarak kitlesel olarak alanlarda kutland\u0131\u011f\u0131 1976 y\u0131l\u0131ndaki gene o kitlesellik o d\u00f6nemin iktidar\u0131n\u0131 \u00fcrk\u00fctm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr korkutmu\u015ftur ve 1977 y\u0131l\u0131nda da malum katliam gelmi\u015ftir. Yani T\u00fcrkiye 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019e g\u00f6t\u00fcren katliamlar zincirinin ilk halkas\u0131d\u0131r 1 May\u0131s. Halka kar\u015f\u0131 i\u015f\u00e7i s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 emek\u00e7ilere kar\u015f\u0131 i\u015flenmi\u015f b\u00fcy\u00fck bir \u015fiddettir ve o sarmal orayla ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Dedi\u011fim gibi ayn\u0131 zamanda bu devletin iliklerine kemiklerini i\u015flemi\u015f bir reflekstir. Yasak\u00e7\u0131 tutumu orada ortaya \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Ama ben bunun art\u0131k bug\u00fcne kadar \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f m\u0131zrak \u00e7uvala s\u0131\u011fm\u0131yor. Yani o kadar onlarca mahkeme karar\u0131, onlarca Anayasa Mahkemesi\u2019nin \u00e7ok bizi umutland\u0131ran ciddi kararlar\u0131 vard\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\"><strong>ZD: Tam da oraya gidece\u011fim mesela, demin bahsettiniz. AYM\u2019nin ihlal olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na ili\u015fkin karar\u0131n\u0131 uluslararas\u0131 standartlar a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\">NO: \u015eimdi tabii \u015f\u00f6yle bir \u015fey var, \u015f\u00f6yle de\u011ferlendiriyorum. Biliyorsunuz bu Avrupa \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 Mahkemesi\u2019ne en fazla ihlal ba\u015fvurusu yap\u0131lan \u00fclkelerden bir tanesi de T\u00fcrkiye. 2. S\u0131rada, 1.\u2019si Rusya 2.\u2019si diye hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum T\u00fcrkiye. Mahkeme o kadar b\u00fcy\u00fck bir i\u015f y\u00fck\u00fc ile kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131ya gelmi\u015f ki daha sonra Anayasa Mahkemesi\u2019ne bireysel ba\u015fvuru hakk\u0131n\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de kabul edilmesinden sonra zaman zaman A\u0130HM ile AYM aras\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler oldu. O g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerin etkisiyle tek tek m\u00fcnferit birtak\u0131m olaylarda Avrupa \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 Mahkemesi standartlara yak\u0131n kararlar\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Bunun da T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den A\u0130HM\u2019e giden ba\u015fvuru say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 azaltma ile ilgili oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Ama b\u00f6yle b\u00fcy\u00fck kolektif haklara yani toplu 1 May\u0131s ba\u015fvurusu gibi D\u0130SK\u2019in yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ba\u015fvuru gibi birtak\u0131m olaylarda tekrar Anayasa Mahkemesi ba\u015fka bir h\u00fcviyete d\u00f6n\u00fcyor, yasak\u00e7\u0131 bir tutum al\u0131yor orada. Oysa daha \u00f6nceki ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 kararlarla \u015fimdi D\u0130SK\u2019in hakk\u0131nda verdi\u011fi karar\u0131 yan yana koyun, b\u00f6yle olmamas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Yani gidi\u015fat bug\u00fcne kadar i\u00e7tihat gidi\u015fi y\u00f6nelimi, Taksim karar\u0131n\u0131 ihlal vermesi laz\u0131m. Dedi\u011fim gibi ayn\u0131 zamanda \u015f\u00f6yle bir \u015fey olmasa ilk defa b\u00f6yle bir ba\u015fvuru olsa Taksim ile ilgili A\u0130HM\u2019in D\u0130SK KESK T\u00fcrkiye davas\u0131 karar\u0131 var. Orada ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 inceliyor. Yani \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc nas\u0131l inceliyor, diyor ki s\u00fcrpriz de\u011fildir diyor A\u0130HM, idari makamlar\u0131 haberdar etmi\u015ftir bu toplant\u0131dan. Burada devlete d\u00fc\u015fen g\u00f6rev, toplant\u0131 g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015f\u00fc ile ilgili gerekli g\u00fcvenlik \u00f6nlemlerini al\u0131p hakk\u0131n \u00f6z\u00fcne uygun bir \u015fekilde bunun kullan\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flamakt\u0131r. Devlete d\u00fc\u015fen pozitif y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fcl\u00fck budur diyor. Siz burada yasaklaman\u0131z\u0131\u2026 \u015eimdi orada hep bize gelen \u015fu var, mesela 2007 karar\u0131nda da 2008 karar\u0131nda da var bu. Devlet diyor ki birtak\u0131m istihbarat al\u0131nm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Orada b\u00fcy\u00fck olaylar\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kabilece\u011fi provokatif geli\u015fmelerin olabilece\u011fine dair&#8230; O zaman payla\u015fman\u0131z gerekir ba\u015fvurucuyla diyor. Yani siz ne t\u00fcr provokatif \u00f6nlemler vard\u0131r, bunun nas\u0131l \u00f6nlenemeyece\u011fini oturup payla\u015fman\u0131z gerekir. Ki 2010, 2011, 2012 y\u0131l\u0131nda yap\u0131lan ve ayn\u0131 yasal d\u00fczlemde yap\u0131lan -2911 say\u0131l\u0131 kanunda duruyorken yap\u0131lan- kutlamalarda hi\u00e7bir olumsuzluk \u00e7\u0131kmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bir tane g\u00f6zalt\u0131 yok, bir tane olay \u00e7\u0131kmam\u0131\u015f. Te\u015fekk\u00fcr etmi\u015f, \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f. \u00c7ok g\u00fczel i\u015fte kutland\u0131 \u00e7abalar\u0131n\u0131za te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederiz. Yani uyum i\u00e7inde bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131l, tam da bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131l toplant\u0131 hem anayasada hem de Avrupa \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 S\u00f6zle\u015fmesinde yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131l toplant\u0131 niteli\u011fine uygun bir toplant\u0131 olmu\u015f. Ama daha sonra gelinmi\u015ftir 2013\u2019te yasaklanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Tabii yine yasaklamada birtak\u0131m \u015feyler var i\u015fte; nedir, kent trafi\u011fi. Asl\u0131nda \u015fu anda Taksim Meydan\u0131 kent trafi\u011finde etkilemeyecek bir noktada. Biliyorsunuz alanda trafik a\u015fa\u011f\u0131ya al\u0131nd\u0131, alternatifler sunmam\u0131za ra\u011fmen. Yani biz bu konuda \u00e7abalar g\u00f6steririz, trafi\u011fin kesilmemesi, alternatif g\u00fczergah\u0131 ama turizm bahane ediliyor. Bunlar\u0131n hi\u00e7birinin Avrupa \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 Mahkemesi bu haklar\u0131n yar\u0131\u015fmas\u0131nda hangi hakka \u00f6ncelik tan\u0131yacaks\u0131n\u0131z tan\u0131yacaks\u0131n meselesinde dedi\u011fim gibi bu Anayasa Mahkemesi karar\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7ok hukuka ayk\u0131r\u0131 bir karar oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyoruz ve onunla ilgili birtak\u0131m hukuk\u00e7u arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131zla \u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki g\u00fcnlerde Avrupa \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 Mahkemesine bireysel ba\u015fvurumuzu ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirece\u011fiz.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\"><strong>ZD: Son olarak bir soru sormak istiyorum. Farkl\u0131 tarihlerdeki 1 May\u0131s yasaklar\u0131 ile ilgili de hukuki ba\u015fvurular\u0131n\u0131z var m\u0131? Bundan sonraki s\u00fcrecin nas\u0131l i\u015fletece\u011finize dair bir plan\u0131 var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\">NO: Tabii \u015fimdi \u015f\u00f6yle bir \u015fey var, daha \u00f6nceki devletin \u015f\u00f6yle bir tutumu var. Aman Taksim\u2019de kutlamay\u0131n da nerede kutlarsan\u0131z kutlay\u0131n, biz size kolayl\u0131k sa\u011flayal\u0131m, otob\u00fcsler tahsis edelim, belediye ile konu\u015fal\u0131m size bedava otob\u00fcs ayarlayal\u0131m, otob\u00fcsler g\u00f6t\u00fcrs\u00fcn sizi. \u0130\u015fte Yenikap\u0131\u2019da kutlay\u0131n gibi. Ama yeter ki Taksim\u2019de kutlamay\u0131n, ba\u015fka bir alan isteyin. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc mesela 2004 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u015f\u00f6yle bir \u015fey olmu\u015ftu. Yani 2007\u2019de Taksim zorlamas\u0131\u2026 2003 y\u0131l\u0131nda biliyorsunuz san\u0131r\u0131m NATO toplant\u0131s\u0131 vard\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de. Biz ilk Kad\u0131k\u00f6y\u2019de yap\u0131lan mitingde Taksim\u2019i ilan etmi\u015ftik oradan. Y\u0131l boyunca da 2004 y\u0131l boyunca da Taksim tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. D\u0130SK y\u00f6netimi ve D\u0130SK bile\u015fenleri yani KESK, TTB, TMMOB. Daha sonra d\u00f6nemin \u015feyine dedik ki biz o zaman dedik Sara\u00e7hane\u2019den toplan\u0131p y\u00fcr\u00fcyece\u011fiz Taksim\u2019e falan dedik. Aman dediler Taksim\u2019e y\u00fcr\u00fcmeyin, Yenikap\u0131\u2019ya y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fcn dediler. Taksim\u2019i kapatt\u0131lar Yenikap\u0131\u2019ya\u2026 Sara\u00e7hane de belirlenen alanlardan de\u011fil yani 2911 say\u0131l\u0131 kanunun hi\u00e7bir yerine s\u0131\u011fm\u0131yor. Kald\u0131 ki biz \u015fimdi mesela bir hukuki arg\u00fcman olarak \u015funu da kulland\u0131k bu AYM yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ba\u015fvuruda da. \u015eimdi biliyorsunuz 2009 y\u0131l\u0131nda 1 May\u0131s tekrar resmi tatil ilan edildi, Emek ve Dayan\u0131\u015fma g\u00fcn\u00fc diye. Biz \u015funu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyoruz, diyoruz ki; 2911 say\u0131l\u0131 kanunun 4. maddesinde istisnalar var, gelenekselle\u015fmi\u015f d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn dernek, gelenekselle\u015fmi\u015f toplant\u0131lar ve resmi bayram kutlamalar\u0131 bu kanun kapsam\u0131 d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndad\u0131r. Nitekim biz 2010, 2011, 2012 y\u0131l\u0131nda Taksim&#8217;de yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z toplant\u0131larda bu 2911 say\u0131l\u0131 kanunun 4. maddesi istisnalar kapsam\u0131nda bize izin verdi idare, yani bir bayram kutlamas\u0131 gibi. Nas\u0131l i\u015fte Cumhuriyet Bayram\u0131\u2019n\u0131 kutluyor, 19 May\u0131s\u2019\u0131 kutluyor gibi, baz\u0131 bayram g\u00fcnlerinde resmi kortej oluyor baz\u0131 alanlarda. O \u00e7er\u00e7evede yap\u0131ld\u0131. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla yasa\u011f\u0131n asl\u0131nda bir hukuki dayana\u011f\u0131 da yok ama buna ra\u011fmen keyfi bir tutumla yap\u0131yor. Ba\u015fkaca bizim \u015furadan ba\u015fvurular\u0131m\u0131z oluyor: tutuklamalar oluyor. Yani tutuklamalar nelerdir i\u015fte: g\u00f6zalt\u0131na almalar oluyor, onlarla ilgili yap\u0131l\u0131yor. Yap\u0131lan bireysel tek tek ba\u015fvurular var ama kurumsal olarak D\u0130SK\u2019in yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131, ki bu i\u015fte mesela ba\u015fvurular idarenin yasaklama karar\u0131 \u00fczerine al\u0131nan ba\u015fvurular. Di\u011fer y\u0131llarla ilgili kararlar ba\u015fvurularda var ama san\u0131r\u0131m bunlar\u0131 birle\u015ftirerek bir karar ald\u0131 Anayasa Mahkemesi. Ama Avrupa \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 Mahkemesi bu d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fc \u00e7\u00f6zece\u011fini ve nihai olarak Taksim d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc \u00e7\u00f6zece\u011fini\u2026 Tabii A\u0130HM\u2019in kararlar\u0131 \u00fclkede ne kadar uygulan\u0131yor? Yani daha \u00f6nce verilmi\u015f kararlar var, uygulanm\u0131yor. Ba\u015fka \u00f6nemli kararlar var T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin g\u00fcndeminde. \u0130\u015fte Avrupa Bakanlar Komitesi Kavala karar\u0131, Demirta\u015f karar\u0131, uygulanm\u0131yor. Israrl\u0131 vurgular\u0131na ra\u011fmen Avrupa Konseyi\u2019nin. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla in\u015fallah bu kararlar\u0131n uygulanaca\u011f\u0131 bu 1 May\u0131slar\u0131n \u00f6zg\u00fcrce kutlanaca\u011f\u0131 g\u00fcnler yak\u0131nd\u0131r. \u00d6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki g\u00fcnlerde bunlara kavu\u015furuz diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\"><strong>ZD: Peki Necdet Bey bize kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederiz.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\">NO: Ben te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim bu f\u0131rsat\u0131 verdi\u011finiz i\u00e7in, size kolay gelsin in\u015fallah diyorum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;\"><strong>E\u015fit Haklar \u0130\u00e7in \u0130zleme Derne\u011fi ve K\u0131sa Dalga i\u015fbirli\u011fiyle Yasaks\u0131z Meydan farkl\u0131 konu ve konuklarla iki haftada bir Cuma g\u00fcn\u00fc sizlerle olmaya devam edecek. \u015eimdilik ho\u015f\u00e7a kal\u0131n.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<pre><\/pre>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>E\u015fit Haklar \u0130\u00e7in \u0130zleme Derne\u011fi ve K\u0131sa Dalga i\u015fbirli\u011finde haz\u0131rlanan Yasaks\u0131z Meydan\u2019da bu hafta D\u0130SK Hukuk Dairesi M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc Avukat Necdet Okcan , Anayasa Mahkemesi\u2019nin D\u0130SK\u2019in Taksim Meydan\u0131\u2019nda 1 May\u0131s 2016 kutlamas\u0131na y\u00f6nelik karar\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131yor. AYM, toplant\u0131 ve g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015f\u00fc d\u00fczenleme hakk\u0131na getirilen s\u0131n\u0131rlaman\u0131n, an\u0131lan hakk\u0131 anlams\u0131z k\u0131lacak nitelikte olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, zorunlu [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":7875,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22,39,93],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8636","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-duyurular","category-genel","category-yayinlar"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8636","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8636"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8636\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8640,"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8636\/revisions\/8640"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7875"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8636"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8636"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esithaklar.org\/eski\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8636"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}